In today's episode, Sarah and Laura open by remembering the spring of 2020, the last time Jen was on the show and a time frame just a bit before the opening of her new memoir, Awake. Jen shares how she's evolved her career with time and what it was like to share her raw experiences in her recent work, which chronicles the dissolution of her marriage after she woke up to hear her husband dictating a text to his girlfriend one fateful night that summer.

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