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The C. Boyden Gray Center for the Administrative State, at George Mason University’s Antonin Scalia Law School, supports research and debate on the modern administrative state, and the constitutional issues...
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The C. Boyden Gray Center for the Administrative State, at George Mason University’s Antonin Scalia Law School, supports research and debate on the modern administrative state, and the constitutional issues surrounding it. In this podcast, we’ll discuss some of the questions being debated around modern administration — some new questions, some timeless ones. And you can also get the audio from Gray Center events.
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5 FEB 2026 · Jace Lington chats with Reeve Bull about his experiences running Virginia’s Office of Regulatory Management. Bull discusses Virginia's recent regulatory reform efforts, highlighting the successful streamlining of regulations and the significant savings achieved. He emphasizes the importance of transparency in the permitting process and the need to balance regulation with economic growth. Bull addresses criticisms of deregulation, particularly concerning health and safety, and explains how Virginia's approach has focused on maintaining essential protections while reducing unnecessary burdens. The conversation also explores the integration of AI in regulatory processes and the importance of considering the impacts on local governments and small businesses.
Notes:
- https://administrativestate.gmu.edu/paper/the-virginia-model-how-the-commonwealth-built-a-best-in-class-regulatory-system/, Reeve T. Bull and Patrick A. McLaughlin
- https://ricochet.com/podcast/gray-matters/virginias-new-approach-to-regulatory-analysis/, 2023 Gray Matters Episode with Andrew Wheeler and Reeve Bull
20 JAN 2026 · Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss chat with Hillsdale College Professor Ronald J. Pestritto about his recent article tracing the rise of the administrative state and the revolution it wrought in the federal government. Pestritto explores the evolution of the administrative state, tracing its roots back to the Progressive Era and the shift from a government based on consent to one grounded in expertise. He argues that this transformation has led to a significant disconnect between elected officials and the bureaucratic agencies that wield substantial power without direct accountability to the electorate. The conversation delves into the implications of this shift, particularly in the context of the Trump administration's attempts to rein in the administrative state and the ongoing debates surrounding judicial oversight and legislative responsibility.
Notes:
- https://dc.claremont.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Provocations-9-Pestritto-11182025-with-Cover-1.pdf, Ronald J. Pestritto
- https://americanmind.org/salvo/the-original-progressives-are-no-guide-for-todays-conservatives/, Ronald J. Pestritto
7 JAN 2026 · Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss chat with Notre Dame Law Professor Jeffery Pojanowski about his forthcoming paper, “Faces of Formalism.” The paper explores the complexities of formalism in legal interpretation, discussing its two faces: authority and method. They delve into concrete examples, such as Gorsuch's application of textualism in the Bostock case, and examine the tensions that arise between these two aspects. Pojanowski offers some ideas about how to look for authoritative answers while respecting rules meant to limit judicial discretion.
Notes:
- https://ssrn.com/abstract=5129167, Jefferey Pojanowski
- https://administrativestate.gmu.edu/paper/neoclassical-administrative-law/, Jeffrey Pojanowski
18 DEC 2025 · Adam White, Jace Lington, and Bennett Nuss reflect on the significant regulatory developments of 2025, focusing on under-reported stories in the administrative state. They discuss the future of the Federal Reserve, the evolving relationships between public and private entities, the impact of repealing disparate impact laws, and the diminishing role of Congress.
Notes:
- https://www.yalejreg.com/nc/trump-regulatory-policy-2025-compendium/, Bridget C.E. Dooling, Notice & Comment Blog
- https://open.spotify.com/episode/5EnU5WRhm0U2ZmtREAFxfV?si=3ed7e80037e64f8c&nd=1&dlsi=ee1777ad9c394a70, Adam White and Bennett Nuss, 2024 A Hard Look Podcast
27 NOV 2025 · Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss discuss the implications of the Loper Bright decision on administrative law with guest Eli Nachmany. Eli’s forthcoming paper, “Deference Undisturbed,” examines the effects of theLoper Bright decision on prior cases decided under the Chevron framework. They discuss the open legal questions that remain after the end of Chevron, the role of Congress in shaping administrative law, and the future of various deference doctrines.
Notes:
- https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2025-09/cato-supreme-court-review-2024-2025-4.pdf, Eli Nachmany, Cato Supreme Court Review
- https://www.wsj.com/opinion/chevron-deference-was-fun-while-it-lasted-legal-scotus-partisan-regulation-changes-bddbfe27?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqeHyGoWq_X6wkbCpk0BIyvbsSqtMDaQNm18HPN2v6xhp7EuGhgoTUVP0rQPVoU%3D&gaa_ts=69212def&gaa_sig=v8oGTcCUZbayIzb9iazMV04_bKILAWr4_C2ykgYHSnkjVwZhGDynAjAesmkvyrvD8D6Oob1X5GseKT48CQyZbQ%3D%3D, Eugene Scalia, Wall Street Journal
21 NOV 2025 · Jace Lington chats with Vulcan Technologies CEO Tanner Jones about how his company uses AI to help agencies, lawmakers, and businesses navigate the complex world of administrative law. They discuss whether AI systems will replace the industry and government consultants who usually guide people through the layers of law, regulation, and court precedent that affect our world.
Notes:
- https://vulcan-tech.com/
- https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4877821, Jonathan Wolfson and Tanner Jones Deference article
3 NOV 2025 · Bennett Nuss chats with New Civil Liberties Alliance Senior Litigation Counsel John Vecchione about the tariff case pending before the Supreme Court, Learning Resources, Inc. v. Trump. They discuss the main arguments about the extent of the president’s power over tariff policy and what the court might decide.
Notes:
- https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/5248828-trumps-tariffs-are-unconstitutional-and-were-suing-to-end-them/, John J. Vecchione and Andrew J. Morris
- https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/380638/20251024173104424_Brief%20Amici%20Curiae%20of%20New%20Civil%20Liberties%20Alliance%20et%20al%20FINAL.pdfhttps://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/380638/20251024173104424_Brief%20Amici%20Curiae%20of%20New%20Civil%20Liberties%20Alliance%20et%20al%20FINAL.pdfhttps://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/380638/20251024173104424_Brief%20Amici%20Curiae%20of%20New%20Civil%20Liberties%20Alliance%20et%20al%20FINAL.pdf
- https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/383153/20251030180246101_24-1287rb_Govt_Tariffs_reply-final.pdfhttps://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/383153/20251030180246101_24-1287rb_Govt_Tariffs_reply-final.pdfhttps://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/383153/20251030180246101_24-1287rb_Govt_Tariffs_reply-final.pdf
- https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/375589/20250923100530992_24-1287%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Professor%20Chad%20Squitieri.pdfhttps://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/375589/20250923100530992_24-1287%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Professor%20Chad%20Squitieri.pdfhttps://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/375589/20250923100530992_24-1287%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Professor%20Chad%20Squitieri.pdf
- https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/375663/20250923175714172_Tariff%20brief%20formatted.pdfhttps://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/375663/20250923175714172_Tariff%20brief%20formatted.pdfhttps://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1287/375663/20250923175714172_Tariff%20brief%20formatted.pdf
- https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/11/president-trumps-tariffs-v-the-supreme-courts-duties/https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/11/president-trumps-tariffs-v-the-supreme-courts-duties/https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/11/president-trumps-tariffs-v-the-supreme-courts-duties/
10 OCT 2025 · Jace Lington chats with University of Michigan Law Professor Christopher J. Walker about how to reinvigorate Congress in light of the changing administrative law landscape. They discuss his recent article, Congress and the Shifting Sands in Administrative Law, and his ideas about how Congress can play a larger role in federal policymaking.
Notes:
- https://administrativestate.gmu.edu/paper/congress-and-the-shifting-sands-in-administrative-law/, Christopher J. Walker
- https://administrativestate.gmu.edu/paper/delegation-and-time/, Jonathan H. Adler & Christopher J. Walker
- https://administrativestate.gmu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Nielson-Walker-Congress-Anti-Removal-Power.pdf, Aaron L. Nielson & Christopher J. Walker
- https://www.schmitt.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Post-Chevron-Working-Group-Report-V2.pdf, Sen. Eric Schmitt (R-MO)
5 SEP 2025 · Jace Lington chats with former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Daniel Kelly about what the Constitution says regarding who may exercise the judicial power. They discuss his new Gray Center policy brief, Jarkesy and the End of Political Adjudication, and his argument that the Supreme Court should go further and hold that the Constitution requires many trials now handled by agency adjudicators to take place in the proper forum—an Article III court.
Notes:
- https://administrativestate.gmu.edu/2025/08/jarkesy-and-the-end-of-political-adjudication/https://administrativestate.gmu.edu/2025/08/jarkesy-and-the-end-of-political-adjudication/, Daniel Kelly
24 SEP 2024 · Adam White and Jace Lington chat with Beau J. Baumann about his historical research into the Offices of Legislative Counsel. They discuss his forthcoming paper, Resurrecting the Trinity of Legislative Constitutionalism, and how Progressive reformers at the turn of the twentieth century built institutions to arrest congressional decline.
Notes:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4933206, Beau J. Baumann
https://ricochet.com/podcast/gray-matters/how-chief-justice-taft-wrote-the-famous-myers-opinion-with-robert-post/, Gray Matters
The C. Boyden Gray Center for the Administrative State, at George Mason University’s Antonin Scalia Law School, supports research and debate on the modern administrative state, and the constitutional issues...
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The C. Boyden Gray Center for the Administrative State, at George Mason University’s Antonin Scalia Law School, supports research and debate on the modern administrative state, and the constitutional issues surrounding it. In this podcast, we’ll discuss some of the questions being debated around modern administration — some new questions, some timeless ones. And you can also get the audio from Gray Center events.
Listen to all episodes of Gray Matters at Ricochet.com.
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Listen to all episodes of Gray Matters at Ricochet.com.
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